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Miniborg 45EDII parts

Miniborg 45EDII parts

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早些时候就注意这个mini,结构示意图都打出来了,就是不知道个别部件干啥用的,现在发问:

1.7214是干嘛的?增倍镜?如果是,要这个干嘛?

2.7860装在尾部使用的话配合7501接单反相机能否提供全幅画面的像场,边角是否平场不要求了,估计暗角是一定有了,只求没有黑圈就好。

3.以上示意图,7205的存在觉得只能接aps画幅相机了,调焦座接在接目端再加相机肯定不如接在物镜端顺滑。

这个镜子内部几道光阑?我有高桥摄影标准2寸摄影接筒,长度61mm,加在后端相机能否合焦?另再麻烦黄兄量下7205内径多少?问题实在太多了,多谢!

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刚又看了兄有尺的那幅图,看来没法合焦,只能上borg的接环了,好费啊!!

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-12-31 23:03:44编辑过]

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觉得这样的组件化结构很适合DIY,要是国内的厂家也推出这样的产品就好.[em02]

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以下是引用wzc在2007-12-31 22:37:15的发言:

早些时候就注意这个mini,结构示意图都打出来了,就是不知道个别部件干啥用的,现在发问:

1.7214是干嘛的?增倍镜?如果是,要这个干嘛?

2.7860装在尾部使用的话配合7501接单反相机能否提供全幅画面的像场,边角是否平场不要求了,估计暗角是一定有了,只求没有黑圈就好。

3.以上示意图,7205的存在觉得只能接aps画幅相机了,调焦座接在接目端再加相机肯定不如接在物镜端顺滑。

这个镜子内部几道光阑?我有高桥摄影标准2寸摄影接筒,长度61mm,加在后端相机能否合焦?另再麻烦黄兄量下7205内径多少?问题实在太多了,多谢!

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刚又看了兄有尺的那幅图,看来没法合焦,只能上borg的接环了,好费啊!!


Sorry for the long delay, been busy as I've to prepare for work. 

1.  [7214] is used like a barlow.  It magnifies the view by 1.4x.  I supposed this is like a high quality teleconverter, something like the AstroPhysic 2" Barlow.  As for why there are markings on the extensible lens, i'm not too sure. I tried two settings, one at 300, and the other at 640.  Both views are the SAME, but the setup of the 640 requires a longer tube length.  There is some instructions, but i do not understand Japanese.  I think that if i have a miniBorg 45 (focal 325mm), then i should set the lens at 300 or 350 to achieve 1.4x.  If i have a longer focal length scope (maybe a 450mm), then I should set the lens at the 450mm marking.  


The picture below shows how the teleconverter [7214] is attached to the MiniBorg using the M57 threads.


The picture below shows the DSLR adapter [7000] and [5005] which can be screwed onto the teleconverter using its M57 thread.  



2.  I have a Canon 400D, and it is not a full-frame camera.  Using my 400D plus the 7860, there are no vignetting at all.  I'm not sure if there will be any vignetting when using a full-frame DLSR.

3.  I took some pictures using my DSLR, with the [7860] and [7215] and there do not seem to be any problems with vignetting.  The DSLR setup which i had posted did cause the helical focuser [7860] not to function smoothly.  After attaching [7860] to the lens cell, followed by the rest of the accessories, it was indeed easier to turn the helical focuser.  The current setup which i have are all shown in the setups as shown in the pictures.

Below shows the helical focuser in two different positions.


Below shows a picture of the how the [7205] works.  It is a drawtube, and is tighten by the two screws at the side.  The parts are made very precisely and minimal flexion is observed.  


Below shows a picture of the back of the [7205] .  It has a M57 thread, which i attach a [7504] to it.  The length of extension is 37mm, and the inner diameter of the [7205] is abt 46mm.


The MiniBorg45EDII [6045] does not have any baffles.  What it had are the tiny circles which are similar to the inside of the [7205].  With regards to your last question on whether i can achieve focus with 'Tak part', i'm not too sure, as i'm not too clear which Takahashi accessory you are referring to. 

I hope the pictures here say a thousand words than my poor description of the answers. 


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I use a Borg [7504] to hold my diagonal and eyepieces.  It is not threaded at the back and thus very good to use.  It is similar to [7501] but is bigger and i think the screws on [7504] are M6 size with nylon tips.


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If I want to use 1.25" eyepieces, i will use a simple setup like the following.  The setup below shows how i used a [7522] to reduce the M57 thread to M36.4 threads.  A 1.25" eyepiece holder [7317] will then be screwed onto [7522] to allow the use of 1.25" eyepieces.




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Interestingly, the part between [7205] and [7522] is Part [7602].  It is an extension tube which has thinner walls, and is much lighter. It also has a M60 thread on one side of the extension tube.  This is very similar to the [7504] and [7508].


The picture below shows a comparison between [7504] and [7508].  I was thinking of using [7508] to tighten my diagonal, but when i tightened it, the diagonal slanted to one side. This was due to the screw thread found at one end of the [7508]. When I used the [7504], there was no problem of diagonals slanting to the side.  


Alright, hope this motivates you to buy your miniborg package!! 

[em01][em01][em01]

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Forgotten to add something important.  The Borg [6045] already comes with a drawtube, which is built into the OTA.  It adds about 40mm to the length.  With this built-in drawtube, the helical focuser [7860] and the mini-drawtube [7205], one can really use the DSLR, CCD, or visual without worrying too much about sufficient focus travel.  


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不多说了!实在是精彩!解惑啊解惑。
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看了半天,接相机的话不加7214可以吗?能合焦嘛?borg就是附件多,一大堆编号,乱。
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QUOTE:
以下是引用wzc在2008-1-2 23:41:31的发言:
看了半天,接相机的话不加7214可以吗?能合焦嘛?borg就是附件多,一大堆编号,乱。

可以!请看我之前的帖子。

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还是不够详细! 看的眼晕。。。

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還是不太好理解 ,附件編號太混亂了!

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当你决定买个BORG来玩玩的时候,自然地会明白这些编号了!

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楼上放毒更是厉害---于无形中。

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呵呵..borg设计很合理,且价格很低廉..我也关注好久了.

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呵呵,小镜子越看越喜欢~~

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我决定买101ED了~天文家园欢迎您!, b3 r& R9 y9 w- }0 X, f
60ED似乎也很好玩~
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呵呵..反正便宜,轻巧..弄几个玩玩没什么坏处.

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